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And Joseph, thank you so much for being here and being a guest on the Matt Hilton show. Oh, yeah. Thank you for having me on. Yeah.

For sure. For sure. So, we were talking a little bit, you know, getting ready to come on and we were talking about travel. So let let's open up with that.

So you you live in Tanzania.

Yep. Tanzania of the three months for three months, early in twenty twenty two.

Yep. Alright. And I went there for a month in twenty twenty one.

Okay. So What took you to Tanzania?

So initially after the whole pandemic being in the house, nothing to do.

Me and my girlfriend at that time, we was like, well, we wanna go do something else. And then she's like, let's go to Tanzania. So I was like, I Tense than it is. And then we just literally went. It stayed there for a month, but that first experience going there, we got there at midnight So this is my first time out the country.

Oh, okay. Yep. Exactly. So we get there at midnight and we go into the building. I had been in real estate for a while already. So we go into the building. I start immediately checking foundation issues.

It's like a sky, but it kinda shit, it kinda like goes with the wind a little bit. Get upstairs to the room. I see termites have been there.

Then they opened up a room with a guy in there, he screams. And so I'm just like, we're not staying here. You go downstairs, We're like, okay. So what do we do? Cause they speak Swahili, we speak English. We don't understand each other.

And they said midnight by way. We see it. And so we look, I'm talking to the guy. I see her face.

She sees this rat because I look, I see a rat, but the size of a cat, black fur, I'm like, the tail was at least six inches long. Wow. I'm like, I looked at the rat, the rat looked at me. I'd look at her.

I said, Keep your bearing.

Like, don't scream. She's like a sign of weakness.

And so literally, I take the guy's phone. I said, I'm about to find the nearest Marriott something gotta have something out here. And so India getting the driver and made it over there and the rest of the trip was great. Wow.

So how did you find the hotel? That's the first one. I went, like, I went to, like, his Google. Oh, okay.

Because, you know, I, like, I couldn't understand it, but I couldn't understand this. It's because Mary, I don't translate too many languages. Right. So that's the easiest hotel to find.

There we go. There we go. So the one with the rat, the termite, so how did you find that hotel?

She was looking. She was looking. Yep. And the person had update had not had updated pictures.

So they had pictures when they first opened, everything looked fine. We get there, looked nothing like the pictures. I was like, we're not doing this. Yeah.

Not again. So we found a place out there, and then after the hotel, and we ended up just sticking with that place this time for the full three months. Wow. Fantastic.

So what was your favorite thing that you did while you were there? So my favorite thing doing out there was the safari because we saw every animal.

My favorite animal was the lion. So I got to look him straight in my eyes. He deferred.

Then literally, I went out there in the middle of the serengeti. It was tree where a jaguar had killed a animal. You can see the remains of the animal. I didn't notice the entire look down, but I can say that when I peed near a hippo pool, in the middle of the serengeti and underneath a tree where there was a jaguar.

Wow. While a cheetah was killed another animal, And then the, guys, I heard him getting the vehicle, getting the vehicle, and then we got to see, like, the, the mother, cheetah, killing off the gazelle, and then we saw all her cups come in But they're just grabbing them dangling, having the thing just dangle through their mouth, playing with it, and then they finally take it through a bush and eat it.

Wow. I've I've always wanted to go on a safari, and that's That is on my bucket list for things to do, here in the near future. But yeah. So, so you went on a safari, you were telling me that you went over to, see where your ancestors, you know, came from and and and things of that nature too.

And then it was a religious type of of the experience as well. So tell me a little bit about that. So, also, like, with the whole answers, this thing, like, obviously, like, people were brought over here on ships and stuff. So we went and we went to, I think it was Zanzibar.

We was at Zansibar. Yeah. Okay. Which means the cost of black people. That's the actual name of what it means.

And so when we was there, we got to see like the last view of what the captives would have saw before being shipped to the, like, Jamaica and, you know, the islands in America. England and places like that. So we got to see that, got to see the shackles standing there, like, where it's like super hot at, got to select the room that came about this high.

That pretty much where they held fifty men seventy five women, what they turned into a church, but it was originally a trading part where they would put people there and say, Hey, I'm paying x amount for this person here. So we got to see all that stuff here learn a lot of the history. Wow.

Fantastic. You're telling me about a different type of Bible that you read here versus, tell me a little bit more about the religious part of it. So for me, going over there, I was just learning more about myself.

I started reading the bible here called the Sephrer. It has eighty seven books.

Pretty much That's about the regular bike with sixty six. Sierra, that has eighty seven, so it has more in-depth of stuff that you might not see in the regular bike. You're not gonna see the regular bike. Yeah.

And so just going over there and just learning more in-depth. And then like I said, I plan on going to Ethiopia this year to read the Ethiopia in Bible, just to confirm some stuff that might be in this one. So where does that passion come from? Does that come from grandparents, parents, like Where did you pick that?

That's so when it comes to the Bible, I would say more so growing up just wanting to know the truth. Because like when I was going to church, we went to like a Baptist church and I saw him do most of like the dancing and stuff and the praise and I'm like, I I said I just don't. I don't I don't know. I was like, let me read more into this. I need to read more into this. Yeah. I've always been more curious as a kid.

And so, and then with my godmother who raised me, she had marched with mother to King Junior so I got to learn a lot with her. She's, like, with civil rights and stuff. Yeah. So Fantastic.

Well, let's, let's go there for a minute. You just brought up your childhood and so what was your childhood like? He said your godmother raised you. So what happened, early on in your childhood?

Well, what happened earlier in my childhood was, while I was born, my mom was, sixteen.

And my day was older. And, so I was pretty much adopted by my godmother, and she raised me till I was thirteen in Oak Cliff, South Oak Cliff. Okay. So I grew up right down the street from a South Oak Cliff High School, on my sailors in Genoa. Okay. And, I went to school, but the thing is is early on, I got in a lot of fights and stuff cause I always wanted to go and be more of my mom. I knew I had seen her, so I just wanted to, like, literally get from that place and go be with her.

And so, yeah, I fought my way out of DISD until I could no longer go to another school in DISD.

And down moved to the suburbs in Lewisville.

And that's where your mom was? Yep. Okay. And so, yeah, so you came and picked me up my grandmother car they look. I can't have them here anymore. He's getting a lot of trouble, different kind of fights in school and stuff.

And by the time I was seventh grade, I had already been over a hundred something fights. So, yeah, it was just it was like it's time for him to he has to go with you. He needs you now. Yeah. I will make sure that I don't make you mad during this interview because your arms are pretty big and, and I've never been in a fight. So if he's been in over a hundred fights, like, Yeah. I I I know who would lose that one.

So when you move to Lewisville, how was that transition? Because if you haven't lived with your mom and now you're living with your mom, like, how did that how did that work for y'all? So I went from being very strict raised with my godmother whereas being a Oakland is used more so, I want somebody shooting at you or you getting around the wrong people and doing the wrong stuff. So I was confounded to the house I remember schoolhouse.

No basketball practice. I ain't get to play basketball until really my freshman year or the highest basketball.

So when I moved my mom, it was more freedom.

So she was like, hey, like you was raised, right? I trust you. So I go out. I might stay out to like ten and eleven come in, but one time one time she got me though. Because I saw her car and I knew I was in trouble because she was at work.

And I was out and it's like my first couple weeks out there and it was like a girl.

And then I was out and my mom saw us out there in the, open area and I was kissing her.

And then men not walk in the house, my mom was like, pow. Don't be doing that stuff. You're not coming out here getting more stuff. New trouble.

Right. Right. New trouble. Yeah. New trouble.

So I was like, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. You heard her loud and clear. Heard loud and clear. Yeah. I avoided that. Yep.

So, assimilating into a new high school, I guess, at this point, No. So I was in seventh grade when I moved my mouth. So more of a new middle school, so it was like, I think it was Durham. Yeah. So meet new people, how they spoke, how they dress. I came over there. I was still trying to wear my stuff the way outward and old clipping.

It just it wasn't mixing. It didn't look right. That you were being you. I was being me.

Right. And I was like, nah, this is not. No. So I had to change. I changed.

Okay.

You seem to turn out to be a a good young man. Right? And, so, I wanna hear more about, like, your high school experience and what did you do after you graduated?

So high school experience, I played basketball, and I graduated from a school in the country, called, up near Oklahoma called Nokona, Texas. Okay. I'm in Nokona. Yep. They make the, Nokona cowboy boots there. Yep. So I went there and graduated a class of sixty three students.

Complete different.

Yeah. By the way, when I was there, was literally the only black person in the fifty mile radius.

So I was like So what to Wow.

Like, basketball, you know, just one to go play for, like, the coach. I like the coach. And so I was like, well, I'll go move there because you know, he was cool. His songs my trainer. Okay. So it just made sense.

And, yes, I went out there and played for him for a year and met one of my best friends. I who's from Monteenegro.

And he lives in Monteenegro right now, but we still talk. Yeah.

So you did Did you have family in Dakota? No family in Delcona. Just me and my mom, we was out there. Okay.

So she moved from Louisville to Chicago. Yep. Okay. And then, many I graduated, she left.

Yeah. She had had, she's like, I'm going back to that was what we have things to do. Because when I tell you, it was nothing to do out there, The highlight is Dairy Queen. Okay.

And may, maybe a bond party, which And I've been to one. So I can say I checked that off the list. So explain I'm just gonna ask what is a barn party? Basically, he's like out at a barn. Random boring, like, people, they're having a party, drinking.

Okay. Yeah. Danson. Danson. Yeah.

So I went, I was like, oh, this is what this is like. I was like, well, I'm a stay out of trouble. I'm not coming to another way. Alright. Yeah. Alright.

Okay.

So I I I wanna ask and explore a little bit with you. I mean, you say you're the only black person I'm I'm assuming inside your mom. Mhmm. Like within a fifty mile radius. Yeah. In Nakona.

So what is that like? Like me being a white male, I I don't like I have never been in a situation where I've been the only white person in a fifty mile radius. Right? So Me, I was cool with it. Okay. I didn't.

I didn't care. Yeah. I was cool with it. I was out there. I got along with everybody.

I still talked to a lot of people. Still there on my Facebook, don't my Instagram. We're still talking now.

So what is that inside of you Joseph that gets you to that place where you were cool with it. You you made friends. Like, there are some people that I know that they make a big deal, right, of being, a minority in in any type of situation.

And I just wanna hear from you and and maybe give some encouragement to some of our our listeners and and viewers of, you know, what was it in your mindset or in your soul that that Yeah. I brought you this. I would say for me what what made me just be kinda used to it.

Just getting out there and I just decided to look at everybody just for who they are as a person. Yeah. So now, you know, of course, there were some bad bad eggs and, you know, we had our conversations.

But conversation was it, right? And then nothing else went further than that. And, but outside of those just few people, like everybody else was cool. So, I mean, for me, it's just not judging what the whole group off of just the one individual that I was dealing with.

So it's really profound, right, not making the generalization of a group of people. Right? The and I'm sure it's just the opposite too, right? Of people from another race in different culture right?

That they would look upon you and make it a generalization or an assumption. Right? Yeah. So, that that's that's profound.

Now, I did get a lot of questions. I'll tell you that. Yeah. I got every single question you can imagine.

In locker room, I won't even discuss That's a discussion.

Yeah. No. It's Lenny.

So when you graduated high school, did you pursue a basketball career in college? Or what what happened there? So I did go to college for almost a semester, but when I went there, I had chose to go to a private school.

Some told me go to the other school, but you know, I was like, I'm gonna go to this one because at that time, I was like, well, I really want to be closer to my girlfriend at that time. So I was like, I'll stay in Dallas and I can just go to narcotics and see her sometimes.

Yeah. I'll go here. Obviously, that didn't work out.

And when I was there, my mom you know, because of her jobs and stuff, she didn't really make a whole lot. So she sent me enough just for, like, my phone bill. So then I was like, I said, well, I said, I suck at grades because I'm too focused on how to get more money.

And then also the coach with basketball training, yeah, he was gonna, he was gonna work every single morning. He had three practices a day. I was like, I just, yeah, I don't have the time. So I went to a Wells Fargo, I was getting some money out and I met this marine recruiter there. How I run it. And he's like, so how would you like to be in the marine corps? And so I told him I was like, I was like, sign me up.

Right there on the spot. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I was like, he's like, I don't know if you flat footed, I was a little flat footed.

I don't know. I don't know if David means anything, but he, yeah, I went signed up and I joined as a field operator up field radio operator. Okay. So the guy that does the air strikes and medivacs that kind of, you know, stuff.

Well, so how long did you serve? I did four years. Four years. Alright. Well, thank you for your service.

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So what was that like? Being in in the marines.

I hear they've got some pretty intense training.

It's pretty intense. Yeah. You know, for me, with the yelling part, there was nothing for me. Just growing up and stuff. Like I said, my, godmother was much more strict.

So when it came to their their yelling and their antics, I'm like, I'm a choker. I'm like, you got my face. You ain't gonna do nothing. Right? You can't touch me.

Yep. So, yeah, but outside of that was cool and, you know, going in and going to like training and then learning my MOS.

Doing, like, the combat training. My favorite thing was being out in the range, shooting rifles. Okay. So Would you get pretty good at that?

Mhmm. Yeah. That's still shooting now. Do you? Yep. I have my rifle. I keep it in my car.

We go to I go to the range, that kind of stuff. Okay. What range which range is your favorite range around here? Well, I'm about to start checking out first go gun club, but I've been going to like Eagle gun club, which is like twenty five yards.

And I'm like, that's No. By Better Marine recently, Indeed has one way it goes up to a thousand yards that you told me about. So I'm gonna go check that out. Okay.

So what years did you serve?

Twenty thirteen to about twenty seventeen. Yeah. Okay.

And do you have any, what's one thing that you could share with the audience and and with me about What did you learn? What what's the biggest takeaway that you that you had from serving in the marines?

Mission accomplished me. Okay. What does that mean to you? So to me, mission accomplishment, you get the job done.

Like, if you have a mission, you focus on that mission, you keep doing it, you'd be persistent about it, and you'd get it done. What are things getting your way? You move out the way. You get it done.

Right? You find a way to get it done. Okay.

Yep. Is it all about you and what you can do or do you work as a team and with others to accomplish the motion? So, yes, you're working with a team. And so obviously with a team, the whole focus with them is getting it done.

The reason why I say that is because I speak more from a standpoint of my business. I run it myself. I founded it. So for me, I'm speaking solo, like myself is still mission accomplishment, but obviously having people work with me as a team, we're getting the job done.

Sure. And a lot of times that makes it a lot easier to do too. Right? When you have -- Oh, yeah.

• somebody else there. Yeah. Hold that easier. Yeah. And I find that in my real estate business.

Like, I've been a solo agent for, you know, many years.

And then brought on somebody onto my team in the last year. And It's made my life a lot easier with paperwork and, working with clients when I get, a lot of business coming in at one time.

So yeah. It it helps out a lot to build that team. It's a mission accomplishment. I like that.

So once you got out of the military, what did you do after that?

Started learning real estate. Okay. What part of real estate? Did you get your real estate license?

No. Didn't get my license. Okay. So this was in actually, so backtrack. I got into personal training.

Okay. So that's how it became a personal trainer. Yeah. It became a personal trainer. That's actually how I even got this size.

I spent four hours in the gym just working out all the time between, you know, clients and stuff. Sure. Because I didn't wanna drive back and forth. So I was, I was just still up here and work out while I wait. All your weight.

So did that for two years, but I was learning real estate as I was doing it because I always wanted to get into real estate. Okay. And so I started off as a wholesaler.

And my first deal went out there and sold a property, made ten thousand on it. And then went so another one three weeks later and did a double close on that and made fifteen thousand on that one. So I was like, hold on. Right? This is I was saying, man, I was like, in the Marine pool, people can shot at for twenty five thousand a year. I just did this in like a month.

So I was like, okay, well, let me keep doing more of this here. And so fast forward to like twenty twenty one.

I, started host I got used to it, started doing more consistent, had found a new way of wholesaling. Okay.

Something called like Astroflipping I learned from this guy named Jamil.

So I started doing that and then sold twenty plus properties that year and then decide to transition to multifamily at the end of twenty twenty one though because I was like I actually want equity. I want ownership.

So, and I don't wanna own single family properties, because I only wanna own apartment buildings. So that whole year I was asking myself How can I own apartment buildings? How can I what's the best way for me to do this here? Mhmm.

So for the audience, If you can, like, bring it down to elementary level of what is a wholesaler when it comes to real estate. Oh, I think the wholesalers do. So wholesales, what they do is you'll either cold call or text, a pre foreclosure list, a people who might be going through probate. Someone passed away, found after their airships.

People who have a motivation to sell some type of underlying pain to, like, I need to sell this property now. Right. So you're cold calling them, you're texting them, you're on the phone. Hey, I see you're kind of going through this here.

Would you like to sell this property?

Then you get on the contract instead of you closing on it yourself, you then you take it and you send out to some cash buyers and they will say, Hey, I'll pay cash for it in reality. They're paying cash, but they're actually going to your hard money loan. It's not the same miles, but they go get the hard money loan and they pay for the property, and you get paid right then and there.

Okay. So anywhere between, like, two to three weeks depending on how long it takes the title to get everything clear and closed. Right.

Right? And they typically happen pretty fast because like you said, you have found people who need to sell, not so much want to sell. Yes. Right.

People not like, oh, I want to I want this price, less people like I need to. And I'll take what I can get. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So you see some wholesalers, they might make fifty thousand dollar wholesale fees. I saw somebody post on Facebook once they made four hundred thousand on a wholesale fee. What?

I wonder, I don't know if that's right, but hey.

I won't get to morality of it.

So I remember when we were on the phone, you're like, a lot of people don't like wholesalers, like this in our industry. Right? Exact this guy told me once, when I was told him about investing my fund, he was like, he said, don't tell me you spill a wholesaler because I hate I hate wholesalers.

He's like, because it's just not ethical in my eyes. It sounds like, well, I was never a wholesaler. Do you wanna invest?

Yep.

Yeah. I see no nothing. Right. Yep. Right.

Fantastic. So what is this? What did you call the type of flipping? Astro flipping? Yeah.

It was this. So what is that So this guy, he has a brand called Asttoflip. His name is Jamila Damji. Okay.

And I was actually in his podcast once he was telling me this right before I went to Tanzania He's telling me that his family came from there. He's Indian. And you see quite a few, like, Indian and Arab people in Tanzania.

So, yeah.

Okay. So, yeah, I guess, of course, it's about, I don't know how much it is now, but it was like eight thousand seven hundred dollars during that time. And you pay for what you go through, you learn, and then you start implementing. Gotcha.

Okay. Okay. So you mentioned the fund and things that you're doing now. So tell me about What are your plans for twenty twenty three with your business?

So my plan for twenty twenty three is to raise capital close out this fund to new investors.

And to acquire at least a thousand units, a thousand multifamily units this year. Multi family. Okay. So as an equity partner. Okay. So I already have deals. People, like, I have people I work with they have experienced fifteen, twenty years of experience.

So for me, it's mainly just get more equity and just provide the equity to their deals. Yeah.

So how did you get into? I mean, what was the fascination of real estate in the beginning?

In the beginning? Mhmm. Like, when I first got started? When you've heard yeah. So did you know somebody real estate?

Did you hear about a seminar? Like, I went to a Robert Kiyosaki, seminar. Oh, did you? Yep.

And it was like, I saw people pulling out their credit cards swiping. My, girlfriend, she's not my wife, but my girlfriend at the time, she was, like, literally, like, hey, you should come to this here meeting. I think you'll be good at real estate. Yeah.

I went to I saw a multifamily, but then I saw wholesaling also flipping houses as I never want to flip houses. That's way too much work. I saw wholesaling, I was like, Well, I don't have much cash, but this will give me some cash. And so that's kinda how I started learning more in-depth about that.

But the end goal is always get into multifamily and start building wealth. Yeah.

Wow. Fantastic. So ultimately, like, in twenty twenty while I went to, think multi family event. I'm not sure if you ever heard of them.

Yep. But not too many people heard of them. Yeah, it depends if you're a multi family, then you will know who they are. Sure. By which one of their events? And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna, you know, pay for their mentorship.

I go there. It's like, yes, thirty thousand for the mentorship. I was like, alright. Hey, let's three times more than what I paid for, The other, the other mentorship came.

I was like, I don't know. Do I wanna pay for this? Do I want to? But anyway, I start I met this guy.

He was their equity partner there. And so we started talking and then, a couple months go by. He tells me about more about what he does. I go to his house, sit down with him, meet his wife, meet some of his kids, and then he was like, would you wanna brace capital?

You wanna have your own fund? It's like, no greater. Four years ago, I said I wanted on a fund, but I just didn't know when I wanted to acquire in the fund. So when the opportunity came to work, now I got on a fund, and I can acquire multifamily.

I was like, yes. How much does that cost? Who would I need to speak to? Yeah. So he put me with his attorneys.

And we went from there. So what is what is the process for owning a fund? Like, do you have to have a special securities license or anything like that? Or you have to get registered with the Security and Exchange Commission?

Okay. So you're regulated by them. Like, basically, I can't just go take your money and run off to Saudi Arabia. Sure.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, SIP, the SEC is who's actually taking down the the FTX guy. Right.

They found him in the Bahamas or came in Iowa where they found him at, so they will find you. Yeah. They will find you. They will find you.

Have you not to change the subject or but you mentioned FTX. Have you are you into cryptocurrency? Do you? No.

No.

You hit Chris. It was too, like, it was so new. I was like, I saw people making money in it, but I was like, I just, I was like, if it's not, real estate.

I don't care for it because anything that has like red days where you can lose money, all like the concept of losing money. I used to trade forex So I know what it feels like to lose money and then you just, you lost it. You can't go and say, Hey, give my money back. Right.

You just lost it. That that's a bad feeling. So I'm like, I don't care for that. Yeah.

Yeah. For sure. So along the way, it sounds like you have grown your business quite a bit from the young days of wholesaling, right, making the fifteen thousand in a month, to today. And what you plan on doing is acquiring the hundred units.

In twenty twenty three. Well, wanna go more like five hundred to a thousand units in twenty twenty two. Oh, okay. Alright.

Fantastic. So if you wanna I mean, so how did you get from point a to point b? What what's your motivating factor? What is your big y? My big y? Yeah. So I would say my biggest why, and this kinda happened while, got to meet Mark Cuban at Lifetime Fitness in Highland Park.

And we was playing basketball.

And my first time meeting him, I hit a three and I looked down, I realized, wait, this is Markie, but I just hit a three on. I was like, hold up. I was like, what you doing here? He's saying that he's been coming here since it was Premier Place. So we started talking, and I told him, I was like, dude, I wanna be a billionaire.

These, like, it's a lot of work. I was like, well, that's what I do.

As I like to work, for me, it's The the thing for me is just actually putting in the work every day is something that I like I enjoy doing what I do as far as working. Right. Like, if I didn't work on what I'm doing, then I'm like, I just wouldn't even, like, what would I be doing? Yeah.

You gotta be passionate about what you do. Right? Yeah.

So you wanna be a billionaire? Yeah. And then, but beyond that, to even like how I go to Tanzania and something that we do, me and my wife, we take, stuff over there, like, close school supplies to orphanage there whenever we go visit. Okay. So to even scale that up and I mean, if you wanna do that, you have to get more income or get more people that can help. Yeah.

So any of the viewers, and listeners that are, you know, with us today. How How do you, like, decipher somebody who's a good investor or a good person to, you know, put money into the fund and things of that nature. So a full process that you go through with each individual? Like, what does that look like?

I sit down. Really get to know the person. Do I actually like them? Did I actually like me?

Are we aligned? If I feel like they're gonna be calling me every five minutes, what's my money doing? What's my money doing? What's my money doing? What's my money doing? Like, I don't want your money and keep that hundred two hundred thousand. Right.

So it's more so just the trust factor as well. And then also some of the sales that I do personally is I even watched their I'll have a conversation Kinda like, what is their lifestyle like?

Right? Like, if it's a guy and he's not very focused with his lifestyle, I'm not gonna accept this money because I don't wanna get into some stuff and then it reflects on me and I'm guilty by association. But why was you working with this guy? No, I don't wanna work with Yeah. Just nipping the butt. Yeah.

Okay.

So you're gonna send a video that you recently had made. So I'm I'm assuming there's some contact information on there that people that see it. Yeah.

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Hey, everyone. Thanks for tuning in to the Matt Hilton show today. That was part one of our interview with Joseph Kimbro. Stay tuned next week as we hear the rest of his story. Take care. If you'd like to contact Matt or know a fascinating person with an inspiring story that would make a great guest, reach out to the show at the matt hilton show at g mail dot com.

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